00:00:00:00 - 00:00:01:15 Live Well with UCI Health. 00:00:01:15 - 00:00:02:12 I am Ryan Manno 00:00:02:12 - 00:00:03:16 with KOST 103.5, 00:00:03:16 - 00:00:06:01 The Ellen K Morning Show and iHeart Radio. 00:00:06:01 - 00:00:06:20 Uh, thrilled to be joined 00:00:06:20 - 00:00:07:22 by Dr. Saquib today. 00:00:07:22 - 00:00:09:02 Doctor welcome. Thank you. 00:00:09:02 - 00:00:09:22 Thank you for having me. 00:00:09:22 - 00:00:10:15 Happy to be here. 00:00:10:15 - 00:00:11:14 So there are 00:00:11:14 - 00:00:12:17 I just was asking you 00:00:12:17 - 00:00:13:21 your official title 00:00:13:21 - 00:00:16:03 and you ran down a bunch of words. 00:00:16:03 - 00:00:16:12 Can you 00:00:16:12 - 00:00:17:12 can you tell us what it is 00:00:17:12 - 00:00:18:23 that you do, what your title is? 00:00:18:23 - 00:00:19:08 Absolutely. 00:00:19:08 - 00:00:21:11 So I'm an acute care surgeon. 00:00:21:11 - 00:00:22:05 I am a board 00:00:22:05 - 00:00:23:19 certified in general surgery 00:00:23:19 - 00:00:25:13 and surgical critical care. 00:00:25:13 - 00:00:27:12 I did, general surgery training, 00:00:27:12 - 00:00:28:08 residency training. 00:00:28:08 - 00:00:29:19 I did fellowship in trauma 00:00:29:19 - 00:00:30:11 critical care 00:00:30:11 - 00:00:32:20 and then another one in burn care. 00:00:32:20 - 00:00:34:12 And I am the medical, 00:00:34:12 - 00:00:35:14 the burn medical director 00:00:35:14 - 00:00:36:15 for UCI Health. 00:00:36:15 - 00:00:37:12 My goodness, 00:00:37:12 - 00:00:39:20 what a position that is. 00:00:39:20 - 00:00:41:07 That's, that's impressive. 00:00:41:07 - 00:00:43:16 It's quite a lot of responsibility, 00:00:43:16 - 00:00:45:02 and is always a privilege to 00:00:45:02 - 00:00:45:22 to lead, 00:00:45:22 - 00:00:47:05 such a great group of people. 00:00:47:05 - 00:00:48:21 Yeah. Requires a lot of work. 00:00:48:21 - 00:00:50:12 But when we get great results, 00:00:50:12 - 00:00:51:16 especially for the benefit 00:00:51:16 - 00:00:52:08 of our patients 00:00:52:08 - 00:00:53:01 and our community, 00:00:53:01 - 00:00:54:09 it's very gratifying. 00:00:54:09 - 00:00:55:20 I would assume, and correct me 00:00:55:20 - 00:00:56:18 if I'm wrong, 00:00:56:18 - 00:00:58:05 that this is probably a busier 00:00:58:05 - 00:00:59:04 time for you guys, 00:00:59:04 - 00:01:00:01 just given the nature 00:01:00:01 - 00:01:01:04 of the outdoor activities 00:01:01:04 - 00:01:02:05 and things that people are doing. 00:01:02:05 - 00:01:04:05 Yeah, we're we're busy year round, 00:01:04:05 - 00:01:05:19 but we do feel busier 00:01:05:19 - 00:01:06:18 during the summertime 00:01:06:18 - 00:01:08:01 for the reasons you described. 00:01:08:01 - 00:01:08:23 The weather is nice 00:01:08:23 - 00:01:10:04 at this time of year. 00:01:10:04 - 00:01:11:22 So people are more willing to, 00:01:11:22 - 00:01:13:06 go outdoors, participate 00:01:13:06 - 00:01:14:20 in activities, 00:01:14:20 - 00:01:15:22 that can, 00:01:15:22 - 00:01:17:00 that can of course, be fun. 00:01:17:00 - 00:01:19:10 But, if you are, you know, around 00:01:19:10 - 00:01:20:18 a campfire, a bonfire, 00:01:20:18 - 00:01:21:20 operating a grill, 00:01:22:21 - 00:01:24:00 near working with 00:01:24:00 - 00:01:25:03 fireworks, there are, 00:01:25:03 - 00:01:26:07 you know, potential to, 00:01:26:07 - 00:01:27:11 to get injured. 00:01:27:11 - 00:01:28:09 I bet you cringe a little 00:01:28:09 - 00:01:28:21 every time you hear 00:01:28:21 - 00:01:30:16 a firework, please, no. 00:01:30:16 - 00:01:33:13 It does worry you, 00:01:33:13 - 00:01:35:06 especially if you are taking call 00:01:35:06 - 00:01:36:03 during the 4th of July. 00:01:36:03 - 00:01:36:19 Of course. 00:01:36:19 - 00:01:37:14 A holiday weekend. Yeah. 00:01:37:14 - 00:01:38:06 I'm sure. 00:01:38:06 - 00:01:40:02 What, what about a typical day? 00:01:40:02 - 00:01:41:10 You know, for a burn surgeon. 00:01:41:10 - 00:01:41:19 Like what? 00:01:41:19 - 00:01:42:06 What is your 00:01:42:06 - 00:01:43:12 what is your standard day? 00:01:43:12 - 00:01:45:17 So you typically have a set schedule 00:01:45:17 - 00:01:46:09 of things 00:01:46:09 - 00:01:47:18 that you need to get through. 00:01:47:18 - 00:01:48:22 But also be mindful 00:01:48:22 - 00:01:49:13 that there can be 00:01:49:13 - 00:01:51:00 a little bit of unpredictability 00:01:51:00 - 00:01:52:04 with, with your work. 00:01:52:04 - 00:01:53:18 But when I come in the morning 00:01:53:18 - 00:01:55:13 for when I'm on for burn call, 00:01:55:13 - 00:01:56:20 we round on the patients 00:01:56:20 - 00:01:57:11 that are in the 00:01:57:11 - 00:01:58:16 the burn patients in the hospital 00:01:58:16 - 00:01:59:19 with the rest of the 00:01:59:19 - 00:02:01:05 interdisciplinary team, 00:02:01:05 - 00:02:02:15 examine the patients 00:02:02:15 - 00:02:03:14 and create a 00:02:03:14 - 00:02:04:17 plan of care to advance 00:02:04:17 - 00:02:05:12 the patients’ care 00:02:05:12 - 00:02:06:23 while they're in the hospital. 00:02:06:23 - 00:02:08:01 And then other days, 00:02:08:01 - 00:02:08:22 certain days of the week, 00:02:08:22 - 00:02:10:17 we are in the operating room, 00:02:10:17 - 00:02:11:16 operate on patients 00:02:11:16 - 00:02:12:13 with burns and wounds 00:02:12:13 - 00:02:13:19 to get them better. 00:02:13:19 - 00:02:15:01 And other days of the week 00:02:15:01 - 00:02:16:10 we will be in clinic 00:02:16:10 - 00:02:17:08 to see patients 00:02:17:08 - 00:02:19:05 postoperatively, preoperatively 00:02:19:05 - 00:02:20:09 new patients. 00:02:20:09 - 00:02:21:17 And then we're also responsible 00:02:21:17 - 00:02:22:10 for patients 00:02:22:10 - 00:02:24:04 that are hospitalized 00:02:24:04 - 00:02:25:02 that our colleagues 00:02:25:02 - 00:02:26:09 from other services may call 00:02:26:09 - 00:02:28:08 or ask us for a consultation 00:02:28:08 - 00:02:29:17 for their burn or wound care, 00:02:29:17 - 00:02:30:19 and then also responsible 00:02:30:19 - 00:02:32:07 for all kinds of burns 00:02:32:07 - 00:02:32:17 that come 00:02:32:17 - 00:02:33:20 to the emergency department. 00:02:33:20 - 00:02:35:09 Big, small, and everything in between. 00:02:35:09 - 00:02:36:02 Yeah, yeah, 00:02:36:02 - 00:02:36:22 I want to talk about that. 00:02:36:22 - 00:02:38:22 So what percentage would you say or 00:02:38:22 - 00:02:41:01 how many of those are, 00:02:41:01 - 00:02:42:23 you know, emergency situations. 00:02:42:23 - 00:02:43:12 Like what 00:02:43:12 - 00:02:44:13 what's your percentage of that. 00:02:44:13 - 00:02:46:07 So, thankfully, the overwhelming 00:02:46:07 - 00:02:48:15 majority of burns are not 00:02:48:15 - 00:02:50:06 immediate emergencies. 00:02:50:06 - 00:02:50:18 That doesn't mean 00:02:50:18 - 00:02:51:23 they don't need to be hospitalized. 00:02:51:23 - 00:02:52:20 A lot of them may need to 00:02:52:20 - 00:02:53:08 be hospitalized 00:02:53:08 - 00:02:54:14 to get the care that they need 00:02:54:14 - 00:02:56:01 while they're with us. 00:02:56:01 - 00:02:58:07 But it's only a handful. 00:02:59:15 - 00:03:00:06 Maybe less. 00:03:00:06 - 00:03:01:23 A little less than 10%. Okay. 00:03:01:23 - 00:03:02:13 have 00:03:02:13 - 00:03:04:06 burns that are life threatening injuries 00:03:04:06 - 00:03:06:00 that require immediate care, 00:03:06:00 - 00:03:06:19 which is a good thing. 00:03:06:19 - 00:03:07:12 I think we we 00:03:07:12 - 00:03:08:22 we see less and less, 00:03:08:22 - 00:03:10:13 well, bigger burns than we did 00:03:10:13 - 00:03:12:12 maybe decades ago. Really? 00:03:12:12 - 00:03:13:21 But that doesn't mean that 00:03:13:21 - 00:03:14:16 once they the 00:03:14:16 - 00:03:15:22 those burns, when they come, 00:03:15:22 - 00:03:17:03 they still require, 00:03:17:03 - 00:03:18:22 you know, extremely diligent care. 00:03:18:22 - 00:03:19:14 Yeah. 00:03:19:14 - 00:03:20:16 To stay on top of, 00:03:20:16 - 00:03:21:12 you know, 00:03:21:12 - 00:03:22:21 making sure that we do the best 00:03:22:21 - 00:03:23:12 we can to get 00:03:23:12 - 00:03:24:15 the best outcome possible. 00:03:24:15 - 00:03:24:22 Of course, 00:03:24:22 - 00:03:25:14 first and foremost, 00:03:25:14 - 00:03:26:11 saving their lives. 00:03:26:11 - 00:03:26:18 Yeah, 00:03:26:18 - 00:03:28:05 but then getting back into society, 00:03:28:05 - 00:03:29:15 hopefully close to the baseline 00:03:29:15 - 00:03:31:11 level of function. Yeah, yeah. 00:03:31:11 - 00:03:31:20 Well, 00:03:31:20 - 00:03:33:13 let's go into the actual, 00:03:33:13 - 00:03:34:10 you know, into those 00:03:34:10 - 00:03:35:12 first critical moments, 00:03:35:12 - 00:03:36:13 right where someone's in. 00:03:36:13 - 00:03:38:07 And this is a severe, 00:03:38:07 - 00:03:39:03 serious thing with, 00:03:39:03 - 00:03:39:21 with a lot of trauma 00:03:39:21 - 00:03:40:17 like what happens in those 00:03:40:17 - 00:03:42:00 very first few minutes? 00:03:42:00 - 00:03:42:14 When, 00:03:42:14 - 00:03:45:12 a severe burn comes in, usually, 00:03:45:12 - 00:03:47:06 we get notified, 00:03:47:06 - 00:03:48:06 that we're, 00:03:48:06 - 00:03:50:09 someone of that nature is coming in, 00:03:50:09 - 00:03:51:13 and then they'll come to our, 00:03:51:13 - 00:03:52:19 ER trauma bay, 00:03:52:19 - 00:03:53:22 and we mobilize 00:03:53:22 - 00:03:55:12 our emergency department providers, 00:03:55:12 - 00:03:56:18 our trauma providers, 00:03:56:18 - 00:03:58:14 and then the burn providers, 00:03:58:14 - 00:03:59:19 to come to the bedside 00:03:59:19 - 00:04:01:07 and be ready to receive the patient 00:04:01:07 - 00:04:02:15 when they, when they come. Yeah. 00:04:02:15 - 00:04:03:19 And we work together 00:04:03:19 - 00:04:05:04 hand in hand, collaboratively 00:04:05:04 - 00:04:06:09 to make sure we know 00:04:06:09 - 00:04:07:06 they have a burn, 00:04:07:06 - 00:04:08:23 but make sure there's no other life 00:04:08:23 - 00:04:10:02 threatening injury 00:04:10:02 - 00:04:11:09 that might supersede 00:04:11:09 - 00:04:13:09 management in the burn. 00:04:13:09 - 00:04:14:02 Because that might be more 00:04:14:02 - 00:04:14:19 of an immediate threat 00:04:14:19 - 00:04:15:18 to their life. 00:04:15:18 - 00:04:17:14 And then, after we, 00:04:17:14 - 00:04:18:22 adjudicate all that, 00:04:18:22 - 00:04:20:11 if it's usually just the burn, 00:04:20:11 - 00:04:21:16 that's the only injury 00:04:21:16 - 00:04:22:17 and nothing else, of course, 00:04:22:17 - 00:04:23:10 they'll get admitted 00:04:23:10 - 00:04:25:00 to the burn team and 00:04:25:00 - 00:04:25:11 many times 00:04:25:11 - 00:04:26:20 we may have to take them immediately 00:04:26:20 - 00:04:27:19 to the operating room 00:04:27:19 - 00:04:28:19 to start treating them 00:04:28:19 - 00:04:29:11 the right way. 00:04:29:11 - 00:04:31:06 And resuscitating them. 00:04:31:06 - 00:04:32:05 And, eventually, they'll get, 00:04:32:05 - 00:04:33:14 they'll be, 00:04:33:14 - 00:04:34:03 shortly thereafter 00:04:34:03 - 00:04:35:18 admitted to the burn unit. 00:04:35:18 - 00:04:36:17 And then these folks 00:04:36:17 - 00:04:37:12 will be in the hospital 00:04:37:12 - 00:04:39:01 for for several weeks 00:04:39:01 - 00:04:40:20 because of complicated wound care, 00:04:40:20 - 00:04:42:22 pain control, because burns hurt. Yeah. 00:04:42:22 - 00:04:43:16 And they will require 00:04:43:16 - 00:04:45:10 multiple trips to the operating room 00:04:45:10 - 00:04:46:23 to get them definitively managed. 00:04:46:23 - 00:04:48:15 Yeah. So, it's fascinating. 00:04:48:15 - 00:04:50:22 I'm just thinking about that, that, 00:04:50:22 - 00:04:51:17 almost adrenaline 00:04:51:17 - 00:04:52:15 or intensity of what, 00:04:52:15 - 00:04:53:20 what it is that you're dealing with. 00:04:53:20 - 00:04:54:23 And, you know, 00:04:54:23 - 00:04:56:14 I was speaking with another doctor. 00:04:56:14 - 00:04:58:18 You know, who has, 00:04:58:18 - 00:04:59:00 you know, 00:04:59:00 - 00:05:00:06 when he's doing a surgery, 00:05:00:06 - 00:05:01:10 he has the time to prepare 00:05:01:10 - 00:05:03:16 and map this out. With you, 00:05:03:16 - 00:05:04:20 I would assume it's just like, 00:05:04:20 - 00:05:06:01 okay, just trust your, 00:05:06:01 - 00:05:08:01 What you know, right? Yeah. 00:05:08:01 - 00:05:08:11 You, 00:05:08:11 - 00:05:10:07 You have to, trust your training. 00:05:10:07 - 00:05:10:23 Trust your training 00:05:10:23 - 00:05:12:06 That’s what it comes down to. Yeah. 00:05:12:06 - 00:05:12:19 I mean, that's 00:05:12:19 - 00:05:14:02 probably the biggest advice 00:05:14:02 - 00:05:15:06 I give to, you know, 00:05:15:06 - 00:05:16:22 younger, junior colleagues, 00:05:16:22 - 00:05:18:05 and then the trainees, 00:05:18:05 - 00:05:19:10 you know, trust your training 00:05:19:10 - 00:05:20:14 when you're out there in practice, 00:05:20:14 - 00:05:21:17 when you're out there, 00:05:21:17 - 00:05:23:18 it is anxiety provoking, 00:05:23:18 - 00:05:24:12 especially when you're 00:05:24:12 - 00:05:25:08 you're new into this. 00:05:25:08 - 00:05:26:15 It's still anxiety provoking 00:05:26:15 - 00:05:27:04 when I hear 00:05:27:04 - 00:05:28:11 a very severely injured 00:05:28:11 - 00:05:30:06 burn is coming in. But 00:05:30:06 - 00:05:32:04 I trust the training. Yeah. 00:05:32:04 - 00:05:33:07 And of course, follow 00:05:33:07 - 00:05:34:17 the evidence based medicine 00:05:34:17 - 00:05:35:19 that has been established 00:05:35:19 - 00:05:37:05 for several decades 00:05:37:05 - 00:05:38:08 and sometimes, of course, 00:05:38:08 - 00:05:40:02 use the, tailor 00:05:40:02 - 00:05:40:20 the treatment 00:05:40:20 - 00:05:42:03 to the needs of the patient. 00:05:42:03 - 00:05:43:22 Yeah, right. 00:05:43:22 - 00:05:45:05 What would you say 00:05:45:05 - 00:05:47:16 is the most common, 00:05:47:16 - 00:05:48:16 you know, activity 00:05:48:16 - 00:05:49:21 that leads to a burn that 00:05:49:21 - 00:05:53:09 that you see. So it varies, but, 00:05:53:18 - 00:05:56:06 usually the most common, mechanisms 00:05:56:06 - 00:05:57:14 are flame, fire burns, 00:05:57:14 - 00:05:59:22 especially in the adult population. 00:05:59:22 - 00:06:01:10 And then scald burns, a hot 00:06:01:10 - 00:06:01:22 water, 00:06:01:22 - 00:06:03:14 hot soup, hot tea, 00:06:03:14 - 00:06:05:01 especially in our pediatric 00:06:05:01 - 00:06:06:08 patient population. Sure. 00:06:06:08 - 00:06:06:22 Some of the 00:06:06:22 - 00:06:07:16 some of the other ones, 00:06:07:16 - 00:06:09:05 less common are electrical 00:06:09:05 - 00:06:10:16 injuries, chemical burns, 00:06:11:21 - 00:06:13:07 hot pavement burns, 00:06:13:07 - 00:06:14:10 especially in the summertime 00:06:14:10 - 00:06:16:08 in the desert region, 00:06:16:08 - 00:06:18:00 where the pavement heats up so much 00:06:18:00 - 00:06:19:04 that if you fall on it 00:06:19:04 - 00:06:20:04 and you don't get off quickly 00:06:20:04 - 00:06:21:13 enough, you can get a burn. 00:06:21:13 - 00:06:22:06 That's very common 00:06:22:06 - 00:06:23:11 in the desert climate 00:06:23:11 - 00:06:24:10 where I previously live, 00:06:24:10 - 00:06:26:06 before I came here in Las Vegas. 00:06:26:06 - 00:06:27:17 Yeah, but those are some of the main 00:06:27:17 - 00:06:28:10 injury patterns. 00:06:28:10 - 00:06:29:19 But typically flames and scalds 00:06:29:19 - 00:06:31:10 are usually the most common 00:06:31:10 - 00:06:32:15 if you're going to take all takers. 00:06:32:15 - 00:06:33:03 Yeah. 00:06:33:03 - 00:06:33:17 And I know we did 00:06:33:17 - 00:06:34:10 mention fireworks 00:06:34:10 - 00:06:36:16 and you know, even the 4th of July 00:06:36:16 - 00:06:38:17 makes you a little jumpy. But yeah. 00:06:38:17 - 00:06:39:23 Do you treat, 00:06:39:23 - 00:06:41:00 Have you treated fireworks, 00:06:41:00 - 00:06:43:17 burns and injuries? Yes. I have. Yeah, yeah. 00:06:43:17 - 00:06:44:13 And what does that 00:06:44:13 - 00:06:45:20 typically look like? 00:06:45:20 - 00:06:47:05 It depends on the 00:06:47:05 - 00:06:49:20 the severity of the burns. Yeah. 00:06:49:20 - 00:06:52:02 So already the injury, it could, 00:06:52:02 - 00:06:53:19 we see all types of injuries 00:06:53:19 - 00:06:54:21 from fireworks, 00:06:54:21 - 00:06:57:02 most commonly are burn injuries, 00:06:57:02 - 00:06:57:17 but oftentimes 00:06:57:17 - 00:06:59:07 you can get blast injuries 00:06:59:07 - 00:07:01:06 to the face, 00:07:01:06 - 00:07:02:15 causing a fracture 00:07:02:15 - 00:07:05:06 or even a blast injury to the hand 00:07:05:06 - 00:07:06:01 causing, 00:07:06:01 - 00:07:07:14 you know, some or part of the hand 00:07:07:14 - 00:07:08:11 to be blown off 00:07:08:11 - 00:07:09:22 for lack off a better phrase 00:07:09:22 - 00:07:11:04 and requiring emergency 00:07:11:04 - 00:07:13:01 life and limb saving surgeries. 00:07:13:01 - 00:07:13:09 Yeah. 00:07:13:09 - 00:07:14:03 Do you have to 00:07:14:03 - 00:07:16:04 then work in tandem with, another, 00:07:16:04 - 00:07:17:13 you know, let's say someone is 00:07:17:13 - 00:07:18:12 did lose a finger, right? 00:07:18:12 - 00:07:19:21 That's probably 00:07:19:21 - 00:07:20:21 partially what you do 00:07:20:21 - 00:07:21:21 to repair the burn, 00:07:21:21 - 00:07:23:11 but then the finger’s missing. 00:07:23:11 - 00:07:23:23 Absolutely. 00:07:23:23 - 00:07:24:15 We work, 00:07:24:15 - 00:07:26:18 we have a very good, collaboration 00:07:26:18 - 00:07:28:10 with our orthopedic and colleagues 00:07:28:10 - 00:07:29:14 and our plastic surgery 00:07:29:14 - 00:07:30:19 colleagues as well, 00:07:30:19 - 00:07:32:08 who also help with hand injuries. 00:07:32:08 - 00:07:34:05 So it is more often than not, 00:07:34:05 - 00:07:34:15 if we 00:07:34:15 - 00:07:35:09 if it's an injury 00:07:35:09 - 00:07:36:21 of the of the severity you describe, 00:07:36:21 - 00:07:38:01 we work in concert 00:07:38:01 - 00:07:39:05 with our hand surgeons 00:07:39:05 - 00:07:40:13 and our plastic surgeons 00:07:40:13 - 00:07:43:00 to see if we can, restore the hand 00:07:43:00 - 00:07:43:20 as best as we can. 00:07:43:20 - 00:07:46:00 Wow. That is teamwork. 00:07:46:00 - 00:07:46:21 What about grilling? 00:07:46:21 - 00:07:47:05 Do you do 00:07:47:05 - 00:07:48:02 you deal with a lot of people 00:07:48:02 - 00:07:50:02 that have, you know. Oh, yeah. 00:07:50:02 - 00:07:52:05 made an oopsie on the grill. We've had, 00:07:52:05 - 00:07:53:17 our fair share, 00:07:53:17 - 00:07:55:11 of burn injuries from that. 00:07:55:11 - 00:07:55:20 Common 00:07:55:20 - 00:07:57:01 types of injuries 00:07:57:01 - 00:07:58:02 are, are injuries 00:07:58:02 - 00:07:59:17 from the flame itself, 00:07:59:17 - 00:08:01:13 grease splatter, 00:08:01:13 - 00:08:03:00 accidentally making contact 00:08:03:00 - 00:08:04:18 with the grill or, 00:08:04:18 - 00:08:06:06 when you're firing up the grill. 00:08:06:06 - 00:08:07:17 If your gas lining is 00:08:07:17 - 00:08:09:09 is faulty or leaky, 00:08:09:09 - 00:08:11:09 you can get a combustion from that. 00:08:11:09 - 00:08:13:15 That's tough. Yeah. Very tough. 00:08:13:15 - 00:08:15:04 What would you say would be, 00:08:15:04 - 00:08:15:17 you know, let's 00:08:15:17 - 00:08:16:19 say someone doesn't know 00:08:16:19 - 00:08:18:17 if they need immediate care, right? 00:08:18:17 - 00:08:20:05 What's what is like a red flag 00:08:20:05 - 00:08:21:22 or maybe something to to know. 00:08:21:22 - 00:08:23:21 So what if when in doubt, 00:08:23:21 - 00:08:25:20 if you're thinking about, thinking 00:08:25:20 - 00:08:26:22 whether to get care or not, 00:08:26:22 - 00:08:28:02 you should probably just get care 00:08:28:02 - 00:08:30:01 out of an abundance of caution. 00:08:30:01 - 00:08:31:05 That being said, things 00:08:31:05 - 00:08:32:09 that we definitely would 00:08:32:09 - 00:08:33:06 highly recommend 00:08:33:06 - 00:08:33:21 would warrant 00:08:33:21 - 00:08:35:02 immediate care is 00:08:35:02 - 00:08:35:17 if you have a burn 00:08:35:17 - 00:08:37:03 to a sensitive part of your body, 00:08:37:03 - 00:08:38:14 such as your face, 00:08:38:14 - 00:08:40:00 the hands, the genitalia 00:08:40:00 - 00:08:41:07 or the feet. 00:08:41:07 - 00:08:42:04 Those should, 00:08:42:04 - 00:08:43:22 warrant immediate care, 00:08:43:22 - 00:08:45:02 at a local emergency department, 00:08:45:02 - 00:08:45:19 at the very least, 00:08:45:19 - 00:08:47:05 if you have a burn 00:08:47:05 - 00:08:48:18 that's at least bigger 00:08:48:18 - 00:08:50:00 than the palm of the size 00:08:50:00 - 00:08:50:23 of the palm of your hand 00:08:50:23 - 00:08:52:19 on any other parts of your body, 00:08:52:19 - 00:08:53:08 should go 00:08:53:08 - 00:08:54:06 to the emergency department 00:08:54:06 - 00:08:55:10 to seek immediate care. 00:08:55:10 - 00:08:57:12 And then more specialized, reasons 00:08:57:12 - 00:08:58:03 would be 00:08:58:03 - 00:08:58:17 if you had a 00:08:58:17 - 00:08:59:16 it was an electrical 00:08:59:16 - 00:09:01:20 injury, a chemical splash, 00:09:02:20 - 00:09:04:13 or, if you were, say, 00:09:04:13 - 00:09:05:21 in an enclosed space, 00:09:05:21 - 00:09:07:10 you accumulate, you inhale 00:09:07:10 - 00:09:09:11 a lot of smoke from a fire 00:09:09:11 - 00:09:09:21 and you're having 00:09:09:21 - 00:09:11:11 a little trouble breathing. 00:09:11:11 - 00:09:12:20 Those would be reasons to, 00:09:12:20 - 00:09:13:22 to go to at least a 00:09:13:22 - 00:09:15:05 your local emergency department 00:09:15:05 - 00:09:17:19 to seek immediate care. 00:09:17:19 - 00:09:18:23 Let's talk about the advances 00:09:18:23 - 00:09:19:19 in the. 00:09:19:19 - 00:09:20:18 You know, since you've been 00:09:20:18 - 00:09:21:22 since you've been doing that, 00:09:21:22 - 00:09:22:11 the advances 00:09:22:11 - 00:09:23:15 that give you better outcomes 00:09:23:15 - 00:09:25:05 in burn treatment. 00:09:25:05 - 00:09:25:21 Absolutely. 00:09:25:21 - 00:09:29:02 So, we've gone... the, the technologies... definitely, 00:09:29:02 - 00:09:29:15 I believe, 00:09:29:15 - 00:09:30:05 have evolved 00:09:30:05 - 00:09:31:05 even in the decade 00:09:31:05 - 00:09:33:15 I've been in practice. 00:09:33:15 - 00:09:34:23 Some... there are two 00:09:34:23 - 00:09:36:08 specific treatments, 00:09:36:08 - 00:09:37:07 that come to mind 00:09:37:07 - 00:09:38:17 that have really benefited 00:09:38:17 - 00:09:39:19 our patients. 00:09:39:19 - 00:09:40:21 One is a treatment 00:09:40:21 - 00:09:41:20 that we can provide 00:09:41:20 - 00:09:43:11 for patients that have massive, 00:09:43:11 - 00:09:45:02 you know, extensive surface 00:09:45:02 - 00:09:46:00 area burns. 00:09:46:00 - 00:09:47:09 And what you do is you take a 00:09:47:09 - 00:09:48:02 you have a device 00:09:48:02 - 00:09:49:18 that where you can harvest 00:09:49:18 - 00:09:51:11 a very superficial layer 00:09:51:11 - 00:09:52:08 of their skin 00:09:52:08 - 00:09:54:02 half the size of a business card. 00:09:54:02 - 00:09:55:06 So not very big. 00:09:55:06 - 00:09:56:02 Put in a device 00:09:56:02 - 00:09:57:09 where you can concentrate 00:09:57:09 - 00:09:58:07 and isolate their own 00:09:58:07 - 00:10:00:10 epidermal cells and other growth 00:10:00:10 - 00:10:01:22 and other molecules, 00:10:01:22 - 00:10:03:07 and spray their own cells 00:10:03:07 - 00:10:05:04 back to the patient. Okay. What? 00:10:05:04 - 00:10:07:07 And that can really, close 00:10:07:07 - 00:10:09:21 these wounds quicker with a better, 00:10:09:21 - 00:10:11:01 cosmetic outcome. 00:10:11:01 - 00:10:11:20 You take their skin, 00:10:11:20 - 00:10:12:12 put it in a machine 00:10:12:12 - 00:10:13:14 and get more skin. 00:10:13:14 - 00:10:14:14 And on a spray, you con... 00:10:14:14 - 00:10:14:20 Uh huh. 00:10:14:20 - 00:10:16:12 you concentrate their cells, 00:10:16:12 - 00:10:17:03 and then you can. 00:10:17:03 - 00:10:18:15 You can spray those, 00:10:18:15 - 00:10:20:12 to over a large or large surface 00:10:20:12 - 00:10:21:21 area. It’s mind-blowing. 00:10:21:21 - 00:10:22:16 And we can, 00:10:22:16 - 00:10:23:19 and then if you can get the, the, 00:10:23:19 - 00:10:24:07 the mantra 00:10:24:07 - 00:10:25:16 in our, in our line of works, 00:10:25:16 - 00:10:26:02 the sooner 00:10:26:02 - 00:10:27:04 you can close these wounds, 00:10:27:04 - 00:10:28:03 get them covered... Yeah. 00:10:28:03 - 00:10:28:17 the better 00:10:28:17 - 00:10:29:10 their outcome, 00:10:29:10 - 00:10:30:13 the quicker you 00:10:30:13 - 00:10:31:01 you set them 00:10:31:01 - 00:10:32:11 on the pathway to recovery. 00:10:32:11 - 00:10:34:00 And one of that is, you know, 00:10:34:00 - 00:10:35:12 getting them closed sooner. 00:10:35:12 - 00:10:36:22 to reduce the risk of infection 00:10:36:22 - 00:10:38:04 and better appearance 00:10:38:04 - 00:10:39:03 and reduce the risk 00:10:39:03 - 00:10:41:03 of scarring down the road. Wow. 00:10:41:03 - 00:10:42:21 So that is something that I, 00:10:42:21 - 00:10:44:21 we use a fair amount. 00:10:44:21 - 00:10:46:19 And, I believe has, 00:10:46:19 - 00:10:48:12 in my mind revolutionized 00:10:48:12 - 00:10:49:05 some, 00:10:49:05 - 00:10:50:08 a great way 00:10:50:08 - 00:10:51:02 of how we deliver 00:10:51:02 - 00:10:52:21 care to our patients. Yeah. 00:10:52:21 - 00:10:54:02 And then the other one 00:10:54:02 - 00:10:55:08 that I think that has been 00:10:55:08 - 00:10:56:12 very helpful, 00:10:56:12 - 00:10:58:06 is a laser therapy for it. 00:10:58:06 - 00:10:59:00 And that's not so much 00:10:59:00 - 00:10:59:17 when they're admitted 00:10:59:17 - 00:11:00:22 for their initial burn. 00:11:00:22 - 00:11:02:01 But a lot of these folks 00:11:02:01 - 00:11:03:09 may develop, 00:11:03:09 - 00:11:04:10 hypertrophic, thickened 00:11:04:10 - 00:11:05:22 keloid type scars, 00:11:05:22 - 00:11:06:21 and they can cause... 00:11:06:21 - 00:11:08:13 aside from the cosmetic look, 00:11:08:13 - 00:11:10:07 it can cause tightness, 00:11:10:07 - 00:11:11:22 itching and pain 00:11:11:22 - 00:11:14:16 and laser therapy, can, 00:11:14:16 - 00:11:16:16 soften those scars and mitigate 00:11:16:16 - 00:11:17:17 a lot of those symptoms 00:11:17:17 - 00:11:19:04 so it can improve their cosmesis. 00:11:19:04 - 00:11:20:18 It can also improve their function 00:11:20:18 - 00:11:22:06 and their quality of life. 00:11:22:06 - 00:11:22:20 And the literature 00:11:22:20 - 00:11:24:01 has been very clear on that. 00:11:24:01 - 00:11:24:22 So that's something that we 00:11:24:22 - 00:11:26:07 can offer our patients, 00:11:26:07 - 00:11:27:17 after they’ve recovered from their 00:11:27:17 - 00:11:29:10 initial acute burn injury... 00:11:29:10 - 00:11:30:18 That is awesome. 00:11:30:18 - 00:11:31:13 What about like, a, 00:11:31:13 - 00:11:31:20 you know, 00:11:31:20 - 00:11:32:06 like a just 00:11:32:06 - 00:11:33:22 a general seasonal safety message, 00:11:33:22 - 00:11:35:06 maybe for people listening 00:11:35:06 - 00:11:35:17 or watching 00:11:35:17 - 00:11:37:07 that you would have here, 00:11:37:07 - 00:11:38:19 even not even seasonal, but just, 00:11:38:19 - 00:11:39:22 I guess, your own. Yeah. 00:11:39:22 - 00:11:41:11 Your point’s well taken. 00:11:41:11 - 00:11:42:15 I think, 00:11:42:15 - 00:11:44:21 first of all, we want people to, 00:11:44:21 - 00:11:46:15 have fun and enjoy the activities 00:11:46:15 - 00:11:47:22 with their loved ones. 00:11:47:22 - 00:11:48:19 We just ask that you 00:11:48:19 - 00:11:49:20 do it in a safe 00:11:49:20 - 00:11:51:00 and responsible fashion. 00:11:51:00 - 00:11:53:11 And what that looks like to me is, 00:11:53:11 - 00:11:55:03 you know, if you're using the grill, 00:11:55:03 - 00:11:57:11 for instance, or on a, a bonfire 00:11:57:11 - 00:11:58:21 or just using those as examples, 00:11:58:21 - 00:11:59:20 make sure you keep the kids 00:11:59:20 - 00:12:00:21 and pets away. 00:12:00:21 - 00:12:02:17 Establish a safe zone. 00:12:02:17 - 00:12:03:13 Make sure you're not 00:12:03:13 - 00:12:04:12 under the influence, 00:12:04:12 - 00:12:05:07 either by alcohol 00:12:05:07 - 00:12:07:00 or any other drugs or medications 00:12:07:00 - 00:12:08:16 that can make you altered to the point 00:12:08:16 - 00:12:09:12 where you can’t 00:12:09:12 - 00:12:11:16 appreciate your surroundings. Yes. 00:12:11:16 - 00:12:13:01 And then just making sure 00:12:13:01 - 00:12:15:04 that you have a fire extinguisher, 00:12:15:04 - 00:12:16:10 bucket of water, garden 00:12:16:10 - 00:12:17:16 hose, depending on where you are. 00:12:17:16 - 00:12:18:16 So if things start 00:12:18:16 - 00:12:19:22 to get out of control, 00:12:19:22 - 00:12:22:00 that you can at least, splash the, 00:12:22:00 - 00:12:23:18 use those, to kind of 00:12:23:18 - 00:12:24:21 put out the fire. Yeah. 00:12:24:21 - 00:12:26:02 And to that point 00:12:26:02 - 00:12:26:21 you just said splash, 00:12:26:21 - 00:12:27:09 you know, obviously 00:12:27:09 - 00:12:28:20 put out the fire, but like, what? 00:12:28:20 - 00:12:29:22 Just on a personal level, 00:12:29:22 - 00:12:31:06 like if I'm, you know, 00:12:31:06 - 00:12:32:04 making spaghetti 00:12:32:04 - 00:12:33:09 and I accidentally touch the stove 00:12:33:09 - 00:12:34:03 and it's hot, like, what? 00:12:34:03 - 00:12:35:05 What's the very first thing 00:12:35:05 - 00:12:36:23 that you would recommend or if the. 00:12:36:23 - 00:12:37:23 So it's 00:12:37:23 - 00:12:38:19 like you just like a certain 00:12:38:19 - 00:12:39:22 like a small burn at home 00:12:39:22 - 00:12:40:14 where I don't need to come 00:12:40:14 - 00:12:41:19 see you from the burn. 00:12:41:19 - 00:12:42:12 So yeah. Like what? 00:12:42:12 - 00:12:43:08 What is the best course 00:12:43:08 - 00:12:43:22 of action at home? 00:12:43:22 - 00:12:46:16 First thing you want to do is, 00:12:46:16 - 00:12:48:02 is, if there's any clothes 00:12:48:02 - 00:12:48:16 or jewelry 00:12:48:16 - 00:12:49:13 in that area 00:12:49:13 - 00:12:50:18 that also got made contact 00:12:50:18 - 00:12:51:03 with the burn, 00:12:51:03 - 00:12:51:17 you want to make sure 00:12:51:17 - 00:12:53:07 you take those off. 00:12:53:07 - 00:12:55:16 Then you want to, cool it down. 00:12:55:16 - 00:12:57:08 And not with ice. But cool. 00:12:57:08 - 00:12:58:19 Lukewarm coolish water. 00:12:58:19 - 00:13:00:07 This is good info. For about 15, 00:13:00:07 - 00:13:00:18 20 minutes, 00:13:00:18 - 00:13:02:11 if you can tolerate that. Okay. 00:13:02:11 - 00:13:04:17 That can really, what we call 00:13:04:17 - 00:13:06:03 keep the burning process 00:13:06:03 - 00:13:06:17 at a minimum. 00:13:06:17 - 00:13:08:12 Stop it from getting any worse, 00:13:08:12 - 00:13:10:23 and then, and then cleanse it. 00:13:10:23 - 00:13:11:17 Yeah. 00:13:11:17 - 00:13:14:03 And then if you're concerned, put a 00:13:14:03 - 00:13:15:23 clean. Doesn’t have to be sterile, but a clean 00:13:15:23 - 00:13:17:06 dressing 00:13:17:06 - 00:13:18:03 and then get to, get 00:13:18:03 - 00:13:19:02 to an emergency department 00:13:19:02 - 00:13:20:11 or urgent care. Whatever is easiest. 00:13:20:11 - 00:13:21:15 That's really good information. 00:13:21:15 - 00:13:23:04 Yeah, yeah. 00:13:23:04 - 00:13:24:01 Well, thank you, doctor. 00:13:24:01 - 00:13:25:03 I really appreciate the time. 00:13:25:03 - 00:13:26:14 I know you guys are. 00:13:26:14 - 00:13:27:10 If I were ever burned, 00:13:27:10 - 00:13:28:08 I would want to see you, doctor, 00:13:28:08 - 00:13:28:19 I hope. 00:13:28:19 - 00:13:30:00 I hope it doesn't get to that, but. 00:13:30:00 - 00:13:30:21 Yeah, I like you, 00:13:30:21 - 00:13:31:22 but I hope I don’t have to see you. 00:13:31:22 - 00:13:33:02 Please. No. God, no. 00:13:33:02 - 00:13:34:04 I don't ever want to see you. 00:13:34:04 - 00:13:34:20 No, I'm just kidding. 00:13:34:20 - 00:13:36:03 No. You're the best! Dr. Saquib. 00:13:36:03 - 00:13:36:15 Thank you. 00:13:36:15 - 00:13:37:16 Thank you so much. 00:13:37:16 - 00:13:39:12 Live Well with UCI Health. Doctor, 00:13:39:12 - 00:13:40:06 Thanks. Thanks.